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  1. O, My understanding is that Clonidine, if not a beta-blocker, works in a very similar way. I do find that it works, although I only use it a few times a month for more stressful situations. For things like presentations I take it with Clonazepam (anti-anxiety med). Maybe you can ask your doctor about that combo. I'd really recommend trying the green coverage (diluted as described) to tone down some of the redness. The meds help the blushing but alone aren't a total solution for me. Best, G
  2. Hi Everyone, I'm using something that really works for me and that I find is undetectable if you don't overdo it. I put a dab of Avéne - Antirougeurs Day (SPF 25) on the back of my hand. Then I add to it a tiny bit of green concealer. I use LA Girl - PRO Conceal (the green one). I then mix them together with my finger effectively diluting the green concealer. Then I take a cosmetic wedge (used for applying makeup - I use Cala Professional Non-Latex Cosmetic Wedge (rip the head off to create a really good bumpy surface for applying)), soak it in water then squeeze most of the water out, like a sponge. I dab the diluted green concealer on my red areas with my finger and then use the wedge to 'blend' it in, by just dabbing the skin, not smearing or wiping it. Very gentle dabs. I've tried a ton of makeup and concealer type products and this works the best for me so far. It's totally undetectable if used sparingly and applied well. And it can tone down the redness so well. Don't go for full cover. Go for 50-80%. The beauty of it is also that I can apply more or less depending on my skin and/or the day I have ahead of me. I've used it for over a year and it's never once been detected. Anyway, I know there are plenty of products that work for different men, but this is what works best for me so far. Tldr: I use a diluted green concealer on the red areas of my face - undetectable and can use less/more as needed. G PS - here's a link to my full routine if interested:
  3. Hi Everyone, I wanted to come back and write up my personal method for dealing with redness and blushing as this forum has been so helpful to me over the years. I think there is a temptation to forget about it once a 'solution' is found, but it's so important to help spread advice. So without further ado, here is concise description of my issues and how I deal with them. My Symptoms I have permanently red cheeks, with some redness on the bridge of the nose and between the eyebrows. This redness becomes intense with exercise, heat, cold, caffeine, and basically every other trigger you can imagine. It also flares up seemingly randomly at different times. As well as physiological triggers (flushing), I suffer from psychological ones, aka blushing. I can blush at the drop of a hat. I'm a 29 year old male and have suffered from these issues since I was in my early teens. My 'Solution' Over years of experimenting and often not having much hope, I've found a routine that enables me to live without worrying about the redness or the blushing. It's still there. It's still a problem. But I can live with it and it no longer controls my life. The relief is incredible. So, of course, it's not a once and for all solution, but this is what works for me. There are three parts to my solution: 1) Skin Care, 2) Redness Cover Up, 3) Medication for Extreme Situations. I have no stake or financial interest in anything described below. 1) Skin Care: Firstly, I have a routine to help keep my skin in good condition. I think this is a key first step because if my skin is dry or irritated it will be redder and I will be more prone to flushing and blushing. I use: Face Wash: Artistry - Advanced Creamy Foam Cleanser. I use this at night and sometimes in the morning - although I try to limit it to once a day so as not to dry out my skin. Sometimes in the morning I'll just use it around my nose, forehead, and other very oily areas. You can buy it on Amway. Day Moisturizer: Artistry - Intensive Skincare Advanced Vitamin C + HA Treatment. I apply this in the morning after washing my face in the shower. It was recommended by a really great dermatologist. I'm not an expert on the science, but know that it makes my skin feel better. Night Moisturizer: Artistry - Hydra-V Replenishing Moisture Cream. This is a thicker moisturizer that I'll apply at night after washing my face, especially during winter. Sunscreen: Elta MD - UV Sport Broad-Spectrum SPF 50. If it's a really sunny day I'll apply some of this to my red areas, after my cover-up routine (see below). 2) Redness Cover Up: Taking care of the skin is a great start, but alone it's not even close to good enough for me. So every morning after I apply the Vit C moisturizer, I tone down the redness. I put a dab of Avéne - Antirougeurs Day (SPF 25) on the back of my hand. Then I add to it a tiny bit of green concealer. I use LA Girl - PRO Conceal (the green one). I then mix them together with my finger effectively diluting the green concealer. Then I take a cosmetic wedge (used for applying makeup - I use Cala Professional Non-Latex Cosmetic Wedge (rip the head off to create a really good bumpy surface for applying)), soak it in water then squeeze most of the water out, like a sponge. I dab the diluted green concealer on my red areas with my finger and then use the wedge to 'blend' it in, by just dabbing the skin, not smearing or wiping it. Very gentle dabs. I've tried a ton of makeup and concealer type products and this works the best for me so far. It's totally undetectable if used sparingly and applied well. And it can tone down the redness so well. Don't go for full cover. Go for 50-80%. The beauty of it is also that I can apply more or less depending on my skin and/or the day I have ahead of me. If you're a guy and don't like the idea of covering the redness, I was with you. But this works for me and I'm comfortable with it, especially since I've used it for over a year and it's never once been detected. 3) medication for extreme situations: Finally, there are some situations in which I'm still worried about extreme blushing, even with the cover up. I don't want to always be on meds, like Effexor, so I opt for medication that can be taken as needed. If I have a presentation, interview, or other situation that is especially worrying for blushing, I'll use these. BTW, I am not a doctor. Speak to your doctor. Do not mess around with medication on your own. So, I use a bit of Clonidine, which is not exactly a beta-blocker, but of that sort. It helps diminish the fight or flight response and blushing. I don't use much. If it's a big presentation I'll also (simultaneously) take Clonazepam, which is an anti-anxiety med like Xanax. Together they tone down the blushing response and put me more at ease. A little bit of this combo can enable me to present without issue. Don't take too much or your ability to think clearly could be effected. Again, doctor. Conclusion Experiment yourself, pick and choose, but don't give up. I only arrived at a routine that solves the issue for me through research and experimentation, even though I had many times of hopelessness. This is a manageable affliction. You just have to find what works for you. Nothing against those who use them, but there are less invasive treatments than ETS and Effexor. I truly hope you find yours. I know that you will if you keep trying. Sincerely, G
  4. Also, I believe he is using a similar product to what @hungryperson11is recommending. Good demonstration of what's possible.
  5. Thank you @CodeRed and @hungryperson11 for your input. For me personally a makeup-type solution would also need to be virtually undetectable and simple so as not to disrupt life too much. Then again, I don't think I would mind if every once in a while someone were to notice something and I could simply say that it's a sunscreen, or cream, or whatever. It certainly seems like the lesser of two evils if the other option is going on Effexor permanently or even considering ETS. I've also been experimenting with recover correct and conceal - mixing with moisturizers etc. to dilute. Not happy with the results yet but I'm such an amateur at this sort of thing that there's room for improvement. I'll try @hungryperson11's recommendation. I wanted to highlight my own strategy (work in progress), which I have arrived at after many confusing years (I don't mean to hijack the thread but it seems relevant and the thread is alive). My Strategy: 1) Continue working with a dermatologist to find ways to calm the skin and reduce flushing - some options that have worked for me are Oracea (long term for flushing), prescription sodium sulfacetamide washes, and even laser treatment to some extent (questionable efficacy). 2) Find a cover-up solution that will help tone down the day-to-day redness and blushing by enough of a factor so as to relieve the anxiety about it. For me, even a 50% reduction might be enough to make it a non-issue. 3) Work with a psychiatrist to find a medication solution that can help with extreme blushing scenarios - like job interviews / public speaking events. For instance anti-anxiety meds (e.g.) Xanax and/or beta-blockers (Propranolol) to name a few options. Even just knowing that I have a solution for these extreme blushing scenarios would be incredibly reassuring. For me, this combination approach seems infinitely better than an Effexor/ETS option. Hopefully one day soon I'll have it perfected and can manage the issue with little worry. Hope this helps someone, G
  6. Hi Big Red, Are you still happy with this product? I'm looking to get something that can't be detected and will tone down the redness by 40-50%. Also, any advice on what shade to buy? Obviously it depends on skin type but I'm thinking one with yellow undertones hides redness better. Any thoughts or just dependent? Thanks
  7. Hi Pauldon, How are you getting on with the Recover Redness Concealer? Have you found that it's undetectable? I'm also a man looking to tone down some intense redness; perhaps by 40-50%. Would love an update before buying the product. Thanks!
  8. I'm on my 4th day with Effexor (37.5 Extended-Release). I've felt high and a little sick for the first few days. However, I've already experienced really positive effects. I was expecting it to take longer. Reduced blushing and also almost all flushing is completely gone, even when exercising. The downside is that I think I'm experiencing sexual side effects (I'm male). My psychiatrist mentioned that this function is also part of the sympathetic nervous system so it makes sense. I'll wait and see how things develop and if that subsides. I think it's too early to judge positives and negatives until a week or two in. One thing I would say is that I had previously tried Effexor 37.5 normal release but found the side effects much too strong. Ask your doctor about Effexor XR (extended release), it seems much more gentle.
  9. Hi Stella, I completely understand why you quit Effexor with those intense side effects. I have read many times, however, that the side effects tend to go away over time (days or weeks). Just saying that maybe it's worth another shot if those other options don't work for you. I'm about to try it for the first time so will let you know how it goes. I'm going to start with 37.5
  10. Hi Beetroot, I'm about to start Effexor as well so will follow your progress with interest. I was prescribed normal release Effexor but seem to remember reading that people use Effexor XR (extended release) for blushing. Before I start 'm going to clarify what the difference is and which could be better.
  11. Hi Everyone, Blushingman - thank you for your persistence and scientific-like approach. It's really impressive and I appreciate you sharing. I'm 27 and have suffered with these issues probably since early teens. Some level of redness on the entire cheek area constantly but the variation is the real killer. At times it's not bad at all but the daily flushing/blushing is intense. I have all the usual triggers as well as seemingly random flushing (e.g. in the evening) and blushing. I also have some redness on my nose, eyebrow area, chin, and neck. But the cheek area is where the flushing etc. takes place. I think I have Keratosis Pilarsis Rubra Faceii (I can see tiny bumps on the cheek), but dermatologists are unwilling to diagnose it precisely. I have a daily skin care regime which is helpful (I'll post about details somewhere else maybe). I also take low-dose Doxycycline/ i.e. Oracea daily for its anti-inflammatory properties - my derm. believes this should help but I can't be sure if it does. I'm currently doing a KTP/vbeam 'campaign'. I'm not sure how helpful this will be but I'm seeing one of the best laser dermatologists in the world and want to see what improvements it can offer. I've done 2 treatments so far and will likely go for 5 or so total. As soon as that's done I'm going to try some medication. Maybe Effexor to begin with since it can help flushing and blushing. Overall people seem to have had positive experiences with that. The major issue does seem to be with the sympathetic nervous system, or whatever triggers flushing - since at times I'm barely red. So medication seems like a key component to managing this. Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself on this thread and say that I'm looking forward to joining in with the experiments. I've always felt that an effective strategy for managing this is out there with the right combination of treatments etc. Please keep posting and I'll do the same in a few months. Thanks
  12. Hi Oliver, Thanks for keeping us updated. I was wondering if you could describe your pre-surgery symptoms a bit more. For instance I only blush in a very specific area - the entire cheek area. Dr Gorenstein in New York said that he's had more success with people (specifically women) who blush on the neck as well as the face. What was yours like? Did you also flush badly from heat etc. and how is that now? Thanks!
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