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Mila
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« on: April 9th, 2005, 8:36am » |
 
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Science and Supplement News: Green Tea Extract for Rosacea
Researchers in California have reported that a cream containing green tea extract seems to quell the signs of rosacea, a skin condition affecting the face that can cause redness, pimples and visible blood vessels. Dermatologists at the University of California in San Francisco tested the cream, called polyphenone, on 60 female rosacea patients between the ages of 25 and 50. Half used the cream on their faces twice a day for four weeks; the other half of the group applied an inactive cream. The treatment brought about a 70 percent reported improvement. Further study will be needed to confirm these results.
Wow, 70% improvement in 4 weeks is actually pretty amazing!
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« Reply #1 on: April 9th, 2005, 9:27am » |
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Bravo.
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« Reply #2 on: April 9th, 2005, 9:52am » |
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Define "improvement", then I'll be impressed.
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« Reply #3 on: April 9th, 2005, 10:56am » |
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i wish someone would read ....\
www.zenmed.com
it proves even better results then the link mentioned aboved.
99.7% improvement. and i mean huge relief.
chris.
by the way, ordered it already. suppposedly the people using it already tried metrogel with no great results. they claim huge relief.
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« Reply #4 on: April 9th, 2005, 1:01pm » |
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sorry to discourage you millerlite but zenmed rosacea products are not effective. Everyone I have chatted with online who has used their products haven't had any good results.
I personally used the zenmed rosacea support serum for about 2 weeks. During this time I started having really watery and itchy eyes so I automatically thought that I had developped ocular rosacea. But then I stopped using the zenmed cream, which by the way smells like crap and was burning my face, and my eyes returned to normal. I think there are essential oils in this product that are very irritating to the eyes and skin. I am currently trying a product called Clinique CX Redness Relief and so far after only one week, there is actually some improvement. It's also fragrance free, doesn't irritate my skin or my eyes. While doing a search on the internet for this cream, I came across a review from the Toronto beauty expo I think, where a woman mentioned that this cream had eliminated her rosacea symptoms. Since I can't get it in Canada, I bought it on ebay. I'll let you know if it's worth it or not.
JimJimson, I am as skeptical as you are with any new discovery, I just decided to post this because this morning when I read my emails, I recieved a weekly health bulletin by Dr. Andrew Weil who I admire so much, and there were three important headlines...one about lung cancer, another about something I don't remember and the third one about rosacea and green tea. I thought it was very interesting and I suppose that even though the results are still preliminary, it can't hurt if someone wants to try out a facial cream made with green tea. The worst thing it can do is not work...To answer you question about improvement, I suppose a 70% improvement is a 70% reduction in rosacea symptoms including redness and flushing. I believe the results are quite significant since they were done with 60 people and not just 1 person. But anyways, the good news is research is being done and something will be found that works, I am confident about that.
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« Reply #5 on: April 9th, 2005, 1:27pm » |
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Well, to the best of my knowledge, there are lots of treatments (including natural ones) for permanent redness, but there is so little we can do for flushing. I've heard green tea extract is effective in treating rosacea, and I've heard that it isn't. Frankly, if it's another treatment for permanent redness or papules then that's all well and good, but we need something that works against flushing more.
If someone could confirm that the extract has a positive effect on flushing then that would be an excellent discovery, however I'm doubtful this is the case. Thanks for the info though, Mila.
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« Reply #6 on: April 9th, 2005, 3:28pm » |
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Hi Mila,
I tried products from Pevonia and alot of them contain green tea. I found the products I've tried do help to calm my skin when it's irritated.
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« Reply #7 on: April 9th, 2005, 10:55pm » |
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mila,
where you just using the serum or the 3 cream/red mask, and serum together. i just go mine, cost about 65 bucks, supposedly the 3 things together work miracles, even on flushing.
i'll keep you posted, as well
i don't have the stinging sensation either. soundsl ike you have sensitive skin so check out www.cutanex.com
chris
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« Reply #8 on: April 9th, 2005, 10:57pm » |
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sorry i forggot to mention this but when i red the ingredients, there was cucumber and green tea extracts as main ingredients. so it could be similiar as that other product you mention with greent tea.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10th, 2005, 12:39pm » |
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We GUARANTEE you will experience real long lasting results, or we will refund you 100% of your money no questions asked, you have nothing to lose.
Have Dr.Nase said anything about this product?
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« Reply #10 on: April 10th, 2005, 6:00pm » |
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That's all fair and well for a product to "cure" permanent redness, but what about permanent redness NOT caused by dryness or some sort of psoriasis-type disorder?
I have permanent redness, like many on here, which is NOT caused by any dryness. In fact, I moisturise my already oily face daily.
So please, if you're going to exclaim that there are so many products which cure permanent redness, I'd certainly be interested in hearing more from you, especially as I have not found one single topical treatment which helps in this skin condition.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11th, 2005, 2:11pm » |
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cookie, have you explored natural supplements that strengthen skin capillaries?
I'm talking about 1 to 3 grams of vitamin C with either grape seed extract or pycnogenol/enzogenol. Pycnogenol is french pine bark extract...enzogenol is New Zealand Pine Bark Extract...they have similar qualities.
You could try 400 to 600 mg of either of this supplements daily. They block histamine which can cause flushing, allergic reactions and asthma, they are powerful anti-inflammatory agents so they reduce inflammation, they strengthen collagen and skin capillaries.
You could also at the same time search for a topical cream made with pycnogenol or grape seed extract. Treating the problem internally and externally might increase your chances of success.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12th, 2005, 11:58am » |
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I have been taking many supplements (including 500mg of slow-release Vit C) for about 3 months - I don't think I've noticed any change.
Since I've been exploring the possibilities, both scientific and of the more homeopathic nature, I think my only chances of getting significant success is with lasers, namely IPL.
At present, I just feel that most, if not all topicals are useless for redness. As for supplements, they have their place in making the skin stronger and more robust, but again, have little affect on redness -- in my experience, at least.
One supplement I have not tried is grape seed extract - I will look into this.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12th, 2005, 12:09pm » |
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I've had a search and I can't find anywhere where I can buy grape seed extract +... the other thing... in supplement form which wasnt a US site.. I live in the UK.. and even selecting "uk sites only" seems to bring up too many US sites..
how much GSE and .. the other stuff... do i need per tablet? How many mg's etc?
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« Reply #14 on: April 12th, 2005, 1:38pm » |
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on April 12th, 2005, 11:58am, [cookie] wrote:| At present, I just feel that most, if not all topicals are useless for redness. |
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This may be true of present day topicals, but if you want to stop flushing and reduce redness, then the topical route would be the best one to research.
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